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Monday, January 02, 2006

CINEXCHANGE : AN ALTERNATIVE TO PEERFLIX







Hi everyone !

Our group has been working for almost 2 years on this project (even before peerflix). We're a bit late, but hey, we're not financed by business angels like peerflix ...!

We'll launch it hopefully by early March'06 : you can already check it out www.cinexchange.com ... and tell us what you think (please don't register yet, it's only 90% functional). For testing purposes, use the following :

User name : Brad
Password : Brad

Any feedback is welcome.

Our site will be different and better (IMHO) than peerflix for 3 MAJOR REASONS :

1) Cinexchange is really 100% FREE and legal.

There's no membership and, most important, WE DON'T CHARGE ANYTHING FOR TRADES (in or out). Nothing, zip, nada, niet, zero, rien du tout !
Our target is indeed to become in the next 2 years as big as a legal form of kaZaa could be, not just another money-making business that could disappear in 6 months. Peerflix must content stock holders, not us. We do that for fun !
But to achieve that, and convince millions of users, we'll simply be 100% free and rely on advertisers to cover our costs.
And guess what ? : check what Napster became in a few years... The new legal (and commercial) Napster is ranked now even better than kaZaa by Alexa.com (3,386 vs 4,257 respectively ...). That means a legitimate business can succeed over an underground/illegal p2p.

2) Our trading model is quite different than peerflix'.

We decided to copy the stock exchange principles and adapt the NYSE functionalities to our system. With cinexchange, DVDs (or UMDs or Games) have no set values such as the peerflix peerbux. We rely on live quotation of each item. BTW you can find in our homepage a scrolling-infobar showing live quotes of the most popular movies/games (most traded), a kind of NASDAQ/DOWJONES index for the top 40 items. We consider each new item is worth 10 points at the beginning. It's not important if it's a new release or not, because this value will rapidly fluctuate, according to the demand/offer principles of any such stock-like market. Some movies actually build value with time and become classics, or the opposite when critics/reviews are terrible : don't you think 'The Godfather' or 'Titanic' should be more valued than the last 'Vandamne movie', even though the latest has been released 2 weeks ago ?
We just think IT'S NOT UP TO US TO DECIDE WHAT A MOVIE IS WORTH, and that's peerflix mistake. Who are we to decide so anyway ? Movies, and art in general, is a matter of taste. So the market only (members) can and will decide, not us. And that's a major difference with peerlix and their 3-peerbux value system. With peerflix, any new release is valued 3 peerbux, even B movies. And then they decide that, suddenly 6 months later it's worth 2 peerbux and so on ...
Our system is way more flexible and fair, because it works exactly like the stock market : it fluctuates ! In real life, stock values are never set by the traders, but by the market and shareholder transactions. To follow this analogy, peerflix acts exactly as a trader, a middle-man that would decide of the purchase price !!!Thus in our model, movie value is rather defined by the last occured transaction (works just like NYSE).
Now imagine : "User1" wants to trade out "Star Wars - Episode 2". The last transaction set the value at 4 points (scale of 10). But user1 knows the yesterday's release of Episode 3 is "helping" the market of Star Wars movies, so he's asking 6 points for it.Now, User2, a Star Wars fan, is deperately looking for the Episode2 to complete his trilogy, and declared being ready to spend as much as 8 points for this movie.Cinexchange match-engine asks user1 to mail out his movie to user2 (the same way peerflix does), but user2 will spend only 6 points for it, not 8 (he's actually saved 2 points in this transaction). Now, Star Wars Episode 2 value climbs up to a 6-points, while it's impossible with peerflix system to go backwards.
With cinexchange, movies will continue to have a "life" and their value will for sure vary up and down, following professional critics reviews, words-of-mouth, possible sequels, collectibles, rumors and many more 'outside' non-economic factors...Moreover, this will draw frequent visits by members to our website, because it will be very fun to check what their movie-portfolio is worth ! Savvy users can actually play with our system to save many points on transactions and watch more movies for the same points-spendings.
When a member needs a few extra points to complete a transaction (imagine user2 had only 4 points to trade-in star wars 2, while user1 wanted 6 points) and has no more movies to trade-out, we'll offer (a bit like peerflix), the option of purchasing them at a rate of 2$/point (FYI, a new release, at first valued 10 points, has an average market price of $20, check Walmart, hence 2$/point). User2 needs only to add-up $4 (2 points) to access this higher-value movie.
But that's not our strategy at all to push members to do so. We prefer the cinexchange market to feed itself. And we won't make any profit from these purchases, we'll use these funds to 'feed' the market with new movies releases, just the way Banks feed the stock market buying stocks and reselling them. At least, even though cinexchange is not a profit-oriented website, we'll be able to finance and provide constantly attractive new releases to our members.

3) Our logistic model is different too.

In fact, we're still working on it and would really appreciate your feedback on that, because it's crucial. At first, we wanted to follow the same true-peer-to-peer logistic model used by Peerflix where : user1 sends his movie directly to user2. But reading forums on that, it seems like there's a lot of complaints about frauds (fakes, illegal asian imports, burnt copies etc ...). And that's Peerflix' weakness, despite their so-called PeerSafe protection. They evaluated such complaints to 2% but it might be much more and rising significantly. Of course users are banned by peerflix (really?) if they file too many complaints, but there will be for sure many errors of judgment on peerflix end on who's really responsible for the fraud.

So our idea is as follows (tell us what you think) :

A - user1 send his movie to cinexchange (our office is in Miami) along with a 37cents extra stamp INSIDE the enveloppe - Total cost = 74 cents.

B - we open the enveloppe, verify the movie accuracy, playability etc...

C - we repack it and send it to user2 on user1's cost (remember ? the included extra stamp ?)

Total cost of transaction is 74 cents for users. It's still around 50% less than the peerflix $1.36 but there's now a 100% SECURITY GUARANTY, because Cinexchange acts as an independant third-party verifier and guarantor.

I got this idea when, 3 months ago, I've been victim of an e-bay scam (i actually lost 450$ trying to buy a laptop!). The seller, supposedly based in UK (in fact russian mafia / dixit FBI), pretended there's a new service offered by DHL acting as an independant third-party guarantor, verifying sold products before they're shipped, and confirming to buyers their compliance with the advertized products. Then buyers send to DHL the Western Union payment receipt # and only then DHL ship the products. A great scenario, hu ? Well ... if only DHL offered such a service !!!The bottomline is that such a service would be great if it existed. Maybe UPS, Fedex or DHL should think about it seriously, because as the shipper, they're in the best position to check products compliance ... So we would be in such position if cinexchange verified each products before shipping'em out to destination member.
The only downside of this logistic is that it might take an extra 2-3 days to receive your movies. But at least, there should'nt be any possible complaint and fraud issue would be solved.With peerflix, in any case of complaint, it will ALWAYS be the user1's word against user2's. Hard to judge. If user2 sends out to peerflix the supposedly 'suspiscious' movie for verification, nothing proves that he's actually sending the very-true movie he received from user1 !... user2 could burn-copy it himself and send it to peerflix saying that's what he received from user1, or send one of the junk movies he wants to get rid of and pretend user1 sent the wrong movie... Believe me, frauders are smart, they always find a way.

I really would like to get your opinion on this, because we're still undecided in our team on what's the best logistic model to adopt. We opted for the self-printed mailer by users (just like peerflix) and this is already implemented, but we're still left with how to deal with complaints in a way that would maximize users' trust and minimize our expenditures/responsability when they happen.
Would you prefer to wait a little longer (2-3 more days) but benefit from such a guaranty ?

Many thanks again for your feedback and happy new year 2006 to all of you !

I can be contacted at :
webmaster@cinexchange.com


Cinexchange Beta due in 2 months



Our team is proud to present the Next Generation of DVD & Games Trading Platform !
Our site is the only one to be absolutely free ! No membership, no hasstle, no commitment ! Unlimitted trades and unlimited movies (or games) !

And the use is simple as 1-2-3 :

1) register your movies or games in the "Have List"
2) browse movies and add your favorites in your "Want List"
3) get points for your trade-outs and spend them on your trade-ins

And ... that's all !



While most competitors charge at least 99 cents per trade : CINEXCHANGE IS TOTALLY FREE !!!! Are we nuts to offer such a great service for free ? Probably so. But we expect our site to be very soon as popular as Napster, Kazaa, Edonkey or Emule are, with a Big Major Difference : OUR SYSTEM IS 100% LEGAL !!! We'll cover our costs from advertising when that happens.

Our trading platform works on the same principals as the peer-to-peer system, but in our case, it's in the physical world ! ... :

  • User1 wants to see Titanic and is ready to give 5 points for it
    User2 has registered Titanic in his Have List and wants 4 pts for it
  • cinexchange.com informs user2 that his movie is booked and he needs to mail it out (cost 1 stamp 37 cents only)
  • User1 is informed he will receive his movie within 2-3 days and is charged 4 points only (good news : less than expected).
  • User2 is credited with 4 points and can use them to trade-in any movie of such value or cummulate points with 2 or more other movies.


Not only our new excisting website will allow millions of users to share, swap, trade, barter any of their "old and dusty" movies (or games), but with savvy management, members will be able to get most of their inventory. Very close to the Stock Exchange system, our patent-pending scrolling live quotation of most popular items is a definate plus to rapidly check out your movies portfolio value ...

We'll keep you posted once the website will be fully operational. Happy new year 2006 !